Can't install windows XP on an XP machien

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retroxpuser

Hi
I've been trying to install Windows Xp on a machine that was made for windows Xp. the machine's specs are:
Asus P4P800s-x
512Mb of ram
80 GB maxtor diamondmax plus 9 HDD (it's IDE)
ATI 9250

I try to install windows Xp form a USB flash drive with Winsetupfromusb and apparently windows XP expects some kind of SCSI or AHCI drivers and they can't be loaded from Winsetupfromusb loader. I can't find any options in the bios that changes the controller to IDE.
what can I do?
 
Elizabeth23 said:
your machine might not be able to install from a usb.

My machine can boot from a usb, but not install from a usb.

do a little research on the capabilities of your pc. :)
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well it actually boots from USB I managed to install different flavors on linux on it, besides it's the only way I can install an OS on this
 
retroxpuser said:
well it actually boots from USB I managed to install different flavors on linux on it, besides it's the only way I can install an OS on this
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You will not be able to install this way even with F6.

To avoid teeth gnashing, frustration and disappointment. You need to convert your USB dongle into an IDE /PATA drive. For this you may need to transfer the files to a memory card for cheaper and easier options.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/31618303...rfUJSJ17jfeBpZClcRPpUxZNw=|tkp:Bk9SR_rXrYWlZQ

There are actual USB to IDE adaptors out there, however you don’t want an IDE to USB adaptor.

Alternatively
  1. use another computer and a second IDE drive to transfer files.
  2. Write to a DVD.
 
Madeleine Takam said:
You will not be able to install this way even with F6.

To avoid teeth gnashing, frustration and disappointment. You need to convert your USB dongle into an IDE /PATA drive. For this you may need to transfer the files to a memory card for cheaper and easier options.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/316183034370?_skw=memory+usb+card+to+ide+drive&itmmeta=01JMM5BDFE6PN0Z37ADAHG0MHT&hash=item499dfa3a02:g:rFkAAOSw8Y1now8X&itmprp=enc:AQAKAAABAFkggFvd1GGDu0w3yXCmi1egUXnzTLDHHFG+JaVIE5gb5WFNiwjF8OBgNLCGysxgYZQC4bI5TgOT4ihEf3sQ130fTdUOX1ZRX0yeWEiddTL+Y1vptUOQ4CLGhMzvWr/WEJEiAE7iMt7TFBq5K099+PS5uwcND05e6A6035FH8huFhVVkmm5JERGJzUokwTeNF9zWklTwT3dsUhHez2SLIBCik9XYu/aVSDzDEJoYHxTOfEB2fyh/9Fi1kqZunfNWsXD3wVcGvDmkrHK5maB2D4iCgwxm6SOYZrwwbHKWE8GP8UsCK4y/DSorlgXFVCrfUJSJ17jfeBpZClcRPpUxZNw=|tkp:Bk9SR_rXrYWlZQ

There are actual USB to IDE adaptors out there, however you don’t want an IDE to USB adaptor.

Alternatively
  1. use another computer and a second IDE drive to transfer files.
  2. Write to a DVD.
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will it install from a burned CD?
 
If the machine was "made for windows Xp", which was distributed on CD, then the machine has a CD drive correct? But you also state "it's the only way I can install an OS" (referring to USB). Which is it?

I have no experience with "Winsetupfromusb", but have installed XP via USB a few times using Yumi to create the bootable flash drive from the ISO. Wouldn't hurt to try?

www.filehorse.com

YUMI

YUMI exFAT (Your Universal Multiboot Integrator) is the successor to MultibootISOs. It can be used to create a Multiboot USB Flash Drive containing multiple operating systems,...
www.filehorse.com www.filehorse.com

By your description, it sounds like Setup is not completing Step 1 where required files are loaded into memory. Since you've successfully installed Linux distro's, it's possible you have a bogus copy of the XP Setup, in which case running the same from any input device would fail as well.
 
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ImWolf said:
If the machine was "made for windows Xp", which was distributed on CD, then the machine has a CD drive correct? But you also state "it's the only way I can install an OS" (referring to USB). Which is it?

I have no experience with "Winsetupfromusb", but have installed XP via USB a few times using Yumi to create the bootable flash drive from the ISO. Wouldn't hurt to try?

www.filehorse.com

YUMI

YUMI exFAT (Your Universal Multiboot Integrator) is the successor to MultibootISOs. It can be used to create a Multiboot USB Flash Drive containing multiple operating systems,...
www.filehorse.com www.filehorse.com

By your description, it sounds like Setup is not completing Step 1 where required files are loaded into memory. Since you've successfully installed Linux distro's, it's possible you have a bogus copy of the XP Setup, in which case running the same from any input device would fail as well.
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well I can't find a genuine Windows Xp CD any where here where I live so the only option is a USB flash drive. it doesn't complete the first step because it fails to detect the HDD, this machine had Windows Xp Service pack 2 with a genuine license unfortunately it had this stupid new folder virus that would not be deleted, eventually Window got corrupted and I had to reinstall
 
Why don't you get something like this?
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In some way those gadgets, although USB-connected (and powered), manage to pretend very convincingly to be real CD/DVD readers/burners: this week I used one to install two WinXP's and two Win7's (on two different PC's, of course) without any problem.
And most of them cost less then a meal in a mediocre inn (~ $14 to $20).

As for the legitimate doubt that your installation version is corrupt, you may find a replacement everywhere in ISO format (e.g. here) and burn it on CD.
I think it's perfectly legal since the product has been abandoned 10 years ago, but someone else will certainly know better. Any lawyer here?
 
Since your hardware appears to be 100% compatible with any release (or Service Pack) of XP, and the Setup your using is giving you problems, I would again be very suspicious of using it. That being said however, there is something else you can try in the event you don't have an OEM sticker on the machine with access to a replacement copy of the original OS. This is a bit more complicated though.

The "Harkaz Unofficial SP4" files were created as a complete update to any machine running at least SP1. You can obtain the SP4 update here, which may include updated drivers that your current Setup is either missing, or have been tampered with. This will include every XP update issued by MS including post EOL.

archive.org

Windows XP Unofficial Service Pack 4 : harkaz : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

Windows XP official support has ended. Many users - including me - who won't be able to upgrade their old machines to a newer OS would like to easily install...
archive.org

Once you D/L the archive (either ISO or Zip), you'll need to extract the contents into a separate directory (SP4?). You'll also need to extract all the XP Setup files into their own directory (WinXp?). Then you'll need to use "nLite" to create a slipstream ISO file which combines the original Setup files and the Service Pack updates. "nLite" is not portable and will need to be installed on a system. Also, the program can do much more than just combine files into a new Setup ISO, so take your time with it and go thru all the options slowly.


Once you/ve created the new Setup ISO, you can then use the program of your choice to create the bootable flash drive. I would be sure that the flash drive is formatted Fat32 to elliminate any possible conflicts.
 
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ImWolf said:
Since your hardware appears to be 100% compatible with any release (or Service Pack) of XP, and the Setup your using is giving you problems, I would again be very suspicious of using it. That being said however, there is something else you can try in the event you don't have an OEM sticker on the machine with access to a replacement copy of the original OS. This is a bit more complicated though.

The "Harkaz Unofficial SP4" files were created as a complete update to any machine running at least SP1. You can obtain the SP4 update here, which may include updated drivers that your current Setup is either missing, or have been tampered with. This will include every XP update issued by MS including post EOL.

archive.org

Windows XP Unofficial Service Pack 4 : harkaz : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

Windows XP official support has ended. Many users - including me - who won't be able to upgrade their old machines to a newer OS would like to easily install...
archive.org

Once you D/L the archive (either ISO or Zip), you'll need to extract the contents into a separate directory (SP4?). You'll also need to extract all the XP Setup files into their own directory (WinXp?). Then you'll need to use "nLite" to create a slipstream ISO file which combines the original Setup files and the Service Pack updates. "nLite" is not portable and will need to be installed on a system. Also, the program can do much more than just combine files into a new Setup ISO, so take your time with it and go thru all the options slowly.


Once you/ve created the new Setup ISO, you can then use the program of your choice to create the bootable flash drive. I would be sure that the flash drive is formatted Fat32 to elliminate any possible conflicts.
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Thanks I will try this
 
Chiron said:
Why don't you get something like this?
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In some way those gadgets, although USB-connected (and powered), manage to pretend very convincingly to be real CD/DVD readers/burners: this week I used one to install two WinXP's and two Win7's (on two different PC's, of course) without any problem.
And most of them cost less then a meal in a mediocre inn (~ $14 to $20).

As for the legitimate doubt that your installation version is corrupt, you may find a replacement everywhere in ISO format (e.g. here) and burn it on CD.
I think it's perfectly legal since the product has been abandoned 10 years ago, but someone else will certainly know better. Any lawyer here?
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this PC already has a functional CD drive
 
retroxpuser said:
I got it from archive.org both service pack 2 and service pack 3 produce the same error
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That's fracking weird! Perhaps you can save some time. Instead of going thru the process of creating the slipstream drive, you could just hit the F6 "Add 3rd party drivers" at the beginning of the Setup. But you would need those drivers to be on a 3.5 diskette.

On the other hand, you did not mention if the CD drive is capable of writing? If so, burn a disc and try the install that way? (maybe your old USB 2.0 just won't work for this Setup?)
 
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ImWolf said:
That's fracking weird! Perhaps you can save some time. Instead of going thru the process of creating the slipstream drive, you could just hit the F6 "Add 3rd party drivers" at the beginning of the Setup. But you would need those drivers to be on a 3.5 diskette.

On the other hand, you did not mention if the CD drive is capable of writing? If so, burn a disc and try the install that way? (maybe your old USB 2.0 just won't work for this Setup?)
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well I'll have to try it with a CD, most other OSes that I tried to install with a USB just worked. I bought a new USB 2.0 specifically to use it with this PC. I don't even have this SCSI drive in the first place
 
Kind of kicking myself for not remembering this sooner, but the problem might be with the USB port after all. If your case has USB ports on the back instead of front ports which are connected to Jumpers from the motherboard, then the back side USB ports will always be faster and less troublesome.
 
ImWolf said:
Kind of kicking myself for not remembering this sooner, but the problem might be with the USB port after all. If your case has USB ports on the back instead of front ports which are connected to Jumpers from the motherboard, then the back side USB ports will always be faster and less troublesome.
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I use the back ports every time maybe I should use another one there are four port
 
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