The Race to be 1st on the Moon in the 21st CENTURY/by 2030!

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    Whoever loses this space race will expose himself to be a second rate power of the world and also a past hoaxer of the world...

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    https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202402/1307599.shtml

    China reveals ambitious names for new-gen manned spacecraft, lunar lander; crewed moon landing expected by 2030


    By Global Times Published: Feb 24, 2024 01:09 PM

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    Upon the occasion of the Lantern Festival which falls on the first full moon of the Chinese New Year, China Manned Space Agency revealed on Saturday the romantic yet ambitious names for the country's new-generation manned spacecraft - Mengzhou, meaning "dream boat," as well as the lunar lander - Lanyue, meaning "clasp the moon," that are to be tasked with future explorations on the moon.

    According to the plan, China aims to send taikonauts to the moon by 2030. Currently, the Mengzhou spacecraft, the Lanyue lander, and the new-generation manned launch vehicle the Long March-10 have all entered preliminary development stage, with development proceeding smoothly.

    Mengzhou symbolizes carrying the space exploration dreams of the Chinese people to the moon, and reflects the legacy with the Shenzhou and Tianzhou spacecraft families. The new generation of manned spacecraft includes a lunar version and a near-Earth version for future space station missions, with the lunar version being named the MengzhouY series.

    Lanyue is derived from late Chinese leader Mao Zedong's poem expressing his admiration and wonder for space, "We can clasp the moon in the Ninth Heaven." The ambitious name showcased the grandeur and confidence of the Chinese people in exploring the universe.

    As disclosed by the agency, two Long March-10 carrier rockets will sequentially send the Lanyue lander and the Mengzhou craft to the Earth-Moon transfer orbit.

    The two spacecraft will rendezvous and dock in lunar orbit, with taikonauts entering the lander and then being transported to the lunar surface.

    After completing scientific exploration tasks and sample collection on the moon, they will return to the lunar orbit aboard the lander, where the two spacecraft will rendezvous and dock again, where the taikonauts will shift vehicle and transfer the lunar samples before returning to Earth, Ji Qiming, spokesperson for the agency revealed to the China Central Television (CCTV).

    Currently, the manned lunar exploration project is being implemented in stages, including scheme development, prototype development, unmanned flight tests, and manned lunar flight missions. China has already completed key technological breakthroughs and scheme development by the end of 2023, Ji noted.

    The Long March-10 rocket, Mengzhou spacecraft and Lanyue lander have all entered their prototype development stage, R&D, production, and ground testing, which are progressing in an orderly manner.

    In addition, various test launch facilities and equipment at the Wenchang launch site have also started construction.

    Upon the completion of construction of the Chinese space station, landing on the moon has become the next priority for Chinese space exploration.

    In August 2023, the China Manned Space Agency launched a public solicitation for the names of the spacecraft for manned lunar missions, which attracted enthusiastic response from people of all walks of life to participate. A total of nearly 2,000 submissions were received from organizations and individuals across various fields.

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    The primary reason the USSR didn't beat the USA to manned moon landing was because they were too focused on sending ONE single powerful rocket with everything on board to the moon. Developing this type of rocket is very difficult and time/resource consuming!

    The primary reason the USA couldn't repeat what they had done in the 60's using today's technology is because it was all hoaxed inside a movie studio.

    The primary reason why China will beat USA is because Asians are smarter. Instead of wasting time developing one powerful rocket, it's much easier to send two and have them dock together in outer space...!
     
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    My cat comes up with better conspiracy theories than that. Try harder.
     
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    I always admire these lift off images on the Chinese side.

    The first one in broad daylight is the latest unmanned moon mission (in front is the [ moon's] Jade Rabbit mascot). The last one with the purple flames is the MANNED mission to the CSS.

    Just look at how powerful these liftoff flames are! BUT NONE OF THEM ARE POWERFUL ENOUGH TO DO A SINGLE MANNED MOON MISSION. Just to give you the idea of the kind of power required for an ALL-INCLUSIVE MANNED MOON MISSION...

    The USSR was foolish enough to have wanted to try. The Americans were smarter, they knew it was impossible to do it in the 60's. So they "beat the Soviets to it" by doing it all within a movie studio!

    Now China says you don't need a SINGLE POWERFUL ROCKET if you have the advanced SPACE DOCKING TECH required to deploy two rockets (and have them dock together in outer space)...
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    So you all know how much difficult it is to achieve a manned moon landing today, let alone in the 60's...

    You're telling me this thing / kind of rocket power (see image below) absolutely CANNOT / insufficient to achieve a manned lunar mission!?!? BUT IT'S THE TRUTH!! It's why China gotta do an outer space docking using two or more rockets to make it all work!

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    A couple of more awesome Chinese rocket exhaust pics:

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    Sending peeps to the moon is sooo twentieth century!
    Its been more than 50 years & nobody else has sent people there.
    I, personally see NO practical reasons for having people on the moon.
    First time, ('70's), we did it, was mainly to beat the USSR there.
    "We da best!!"

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    You have to walk before you can run/fly. For China, Phase I is man's foot on the moon. Phase II is a permanent moon base (not very far off, we're looking at 2036 at the latest!). Phase III is mining the moon. Yeah I know, it's much cheaper to mine minerals and ores on the Earth. China isn't exactly after cheap minerals/ores. The moon can be mined for Helium-3 which is the "fuel" used for nuclear fusion reactors! (This is different than nuclear fission that uses Uranium/radioactive ore as the fuel source).

    ALL this happening within the next few decades folks!

    Don't be jealous and gloat about past American glory which till today they are still unable to repeat while China has a permanent manned presence on the moon by 2036!

    As to HOW CHINA WILL GET HELIUM-3 OFF THE MOON, there is talk about building a ring shaped electromagnetic catapult to loft Helium-3 cargo off the moon's surface towards the Earth's orbit to be collected by Chinese enterprises!

    Anyone here younger than 60 can probably witness it all in your lifetime, the ascendancy of a true technologic powerhouse who doesn't (and never will) gloat and hoax!


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    https://www.inverse.com/innovation/horizons-china-russia-moon-base#:~:text=In the next decade, an international coalition plans,could start operating from the base by 2036.

    China and Russia are on track to set up a Moon base by 2036 — here’s the plan

    In the next decade, an international coalition plans to build a lunar research station to transform humanity’s exploration and observation of the Moon.

    The planning phase is already underway, and it is going well. Construction is slated for 2026 through 2035, and crews could start operating from the base by 2036. The station will feature a lunar orbiter, a large, multi-level, habitat to enable surface-based activities, and play host to several lunar rovers.

    If this sounds a lot like the NASA Lunar Gateway program, think again. The station, called the International Lunar Research Station, is a rival to the U.S. space agency’s plans to put humans permanently on the surface of the Moon within a similar time frame. Instead, the ILRS is the brainchild of China and Russia — two of the U.S.’ greatest rivals on Earth.
     
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    You will find this ingenious contraption installed on the moon sometime after China completes a permanent moon base (expected by 2036). It works on the same principle as the electromagnetic catapult that launches an aircraft off an aircraft carrier. Except the catapult is circular not straight... It's expected this device will loft precious minerals from the moon's surface towards the Earth's orbit!

    And remember, if we're talking about mining the moon for something like Helium-3 which can be used a fuel for nuclear fusion, then the economics and costs fully justify the endeavor...

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    Remember guys, who built various grandiose artificial islands in the South China Sea? This same country will show you something magnificent to be accomplished on the moon. Stay tuned...
     
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    You are not Chinese. You are too stupid to even know the difference between Chinese and Japanese, as can be seen from your recent posts.

    I am presuming because of your antisemitic rants, that come out of nowhere and for no reason; You are in fact a Hasbara. That would certainly fit with the complete lack of any knowledge of the world.
     
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    Wow DUMBO finally came out and raised a hiss fit!! I AM CHINESE for a matter of fact!! DUMBO even assumes I'm not ASIAN given his remark that I'm either not Chinese nor Japanese, the two greatest Asian countries on Earth. DUMBO is certainly a genius able to discern other ppl's race being reading comments on a forum... Wowsa what a loose nut!!

    Get it thru your friggin head the Chinese is the supreme ruler of the next century. America had what less than 100 years of glory before being eclipsed by a 5000+ year old civilization.
     
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    So if you refer to my other thread where I stopped watching Hollywood movies altogether, Hollywood and NASA are plagued by ppl with limited spectrum narrow-minded thinking. They do stupid things like fly a helicopter on MARS that has zero practical purpose other than to show off.

    Meanwhile, China does this:

    1. Unmanned moon sampling return mission.
    2. Manned moon landing
    3. Permanent moon base
    4. Launch mined minerals from moon back towards earth using gigantic ring catapult
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    5 Land on Mars
    6. Build a space colony on Mars.

    You see the difference between East and West? Their brain deads simply can't think of anything beyond step 1&2. While there is still step 3&4 to accomplish.

    It's like their ever so boring SUPERMAN. He stopped his evolution at the transcendent stage whose immune to man-made weapons. BUT that's all. Sooooooooooooooo BORING YAWN ZZZZZZZZZZZ. BUT the CHINESE version he becomes a demiGod and then a full-fledge GOD.

    For me Hollywood is BORING. For me NASA is BORING. If you don't like it then can go suck it!

    Hollywood the one that applies a monochrome filter on all sorts of colorful things in life...
     
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    I usually don't comment too much here (have plenty of things to take care of in life). So I will say just this, from the perspective of the omniscient God, the Western civilization must be the MOST BORING one He/She ever had the opportunity to witness.

    The Bible talks about the Chosen Ones/race as akin to being the "multipliers of grains of [yellow] sand". The Jewish and Zionist elites of America arrogant believe they are the Chosen Ones of God. Well do they all got the skin colors of yellow grains of sand? Must God's Chosen Ones come from such a bland and boring modern civilization as America/The West?

    The Bible also talks about Abe and his descendants etc. In ancient times, there was no term for homo sapiens. In modern lingo, Abe simply is just a name for maybe the first homo sapiens, or maybe the ancestor of modern man. Which means according to this interpretation Abe can be any homo sapiens race including Chinese, like how some Chinese like to give their kids English names when living in the West... How arrogant for the Zionists to assume they are the "multipliers of [yellow] grains of sand!" How boring for such a bland Western civilization to assume world leadership for more than 90+ years.
     
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    American EVs, smartphones, moon missions, aircraft carriers, destroyers, battleships, helicopter carriers, subs, missiles, hypersonic missiles, attack helicopters, stealth fighters, all SECOND RATE to the Chinese counterparts (or soon to be revealed Chinese counterparts)...
     
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